Wow, absolutely excellent! Thank you so much for sharing your experiences!
It's extremely nice to hear about what it's like to delve into the professional world of animation and art. I have heard advertising is a great avenue for creatives, much more comfortable working conditions than in media. Though that is just what I've heard second hand, I don't know what the experience is like. I've heard so many positive things about advertising. All places are different! Perhaps that proves that sometimes the obvious answer isn't always the best one. People should recognize that there are many places where they can be creative and express themselves, even if it's not their first thought or what they originally wanted to do. It's better to think that the process of wanting to be creative should be the goal rather than wanting to get a position.
Pat Kain @batstains - Thank you so much for sharing your amazing insights into what it's like working in animation! Superjail! Is amazing. It's true that the series is quite intense! And I also feel that after watching one episode, I need to rest because there is so much going on. I can't think of many shows that exhibit the same quality of being so full of action that I have to take a rest from it. That is extremely impressive to achieve such a high level of creativity that then needs time to process all of that information given. That is a testament to the substantial level of energy that is communicated. It is a roller coaster of craziness!
The story of how he got into that position by emailing the creator and then having a five-minute meeting to see if he was not a weirdo was fascinating. Learning to do clean-up on the job must have been quite scary. Perhaps that confidence is easy to lose over the years as more thoughts and experiences happen. The realization that more things can go wrong could be a contributing factor to changing the perspective of not being able to bullshit as well.
I deeply appreciate and am really thankful for the raw and honest sharing of experiences regarding how these producers take advantage of young animators and their passion for profit. It was really upsetting to hear the story of how, in the beginning of the podcast, Vee talked about being in a conference where an animator was sharing the experience of having to redo a scene they knew did not work, and then to prove that it didn't work.
And of course, the producer scrapped that scene because it didn't work, and the animators knew that. They knew the scene didn't work, yet they did not listen, and yet they still wanted to see the result of that. That is very annoying!
And the live-action people didn't have to do something like that; they could choose to just say no, and then they got their wish. It's sad to see that there isn't the same level of respect from producers towards animation as there is towards live-action because if they were equal, they would understand how difficult it is, which is very upsetting.
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I wanted to joke about something related to Ohio, literally in Ohio! But I guess that's already extremely unfunny, even though I laughed thinking about it. Perhaps I am too mentally incapacitated. I really enjoy when artists share their honest experiences, especially when it is about something negative or positive or something they are passionate about, because I feel there's a lot of dishonesty regarding the hard realities of working in media and how tough and difficult it is.
But you will absolutely meet amazing people along the journey, and it's important to appreciate them. There are always going to be bad people, but what is important is the process of how to handle the negative emotions and how to deal with negative people you meet, and make sure they don't win over you by taking over your emotions.